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  Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions regarding "attention seekers"?

  by BonaFide in

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  we all love it when people pay attention to us or our opinions.

  but what i am talking about is people who crave and force attention from others.

  not just people who talk a lot, but those that force everyone around them to focus on them and them only.. in one of my classes there is a woman who raises her hand to ask a question, but never really has a question to ask.

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  Having read this thread my mind gets inevitably drawn back to Trevor/Linda/Cast of thousands. Trevor was the same - thinking that he himself wasn't enough to interest people. This must have lead him to creating the alter egos whose basic purpose was to make him appear much better than his own self esteem would allow.

  Whenever I chatted with Linda I noticed that pretty much every second sentence was about how wonderful Trevor was etc etc and she didn't have much to say that didn't relate back to him in some way. In fact it was a lot like a love sick teenager would behave and after a while got a bit tedious. Yes, I did feel awful about thinking like that when 'she' became ill!!

  At the root of it all seems to be a lack of self acceptance - no one will like me for being ordinary or humdrum, I have to be this really interesting person with such a drama fuelled life! Probably most people would have found Trevor to be an alright guy if he had just been himself.

  Personally I steer clear of some drama related posts, must be the dour Scot in me!
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  The bad dreams are back again...

  by Pandoras cat11 in

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  i know dreams are our brains way of dealing with problems or situations that are occuring in our life.

  the experts say it is healthy and to an extent i believe this.

  how can it be healthy when you wake up shaking and trying to mouth "jehovah" or "help".

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  I dream every night, always have done. I experience very vivid dreams which I can recall the next day. Cheese seems to put my brain into overload and turn the normally odd but ok dreams into nightmares.

  I read something somewhere about a chemical in cheese that can act as a stimulant - may be someone else knows more than me. I've never needed LSD, give me a Kraft cheese slice for a more far out trip!
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  The bad dreams are back again...

  by Pandoras cat11 in

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  i know dreams are our brains way of dealing with problems or situations that are occuring in our life.

  the experts say it is healthy and to an extent i believe this.

  how can it be healthy when you wake up shaking and trying to mouth "jehovah" or "help".

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  I don't know if there is any scientific evidence but I tend to have nightmares if I have eaten cheese. Even if I have forgotten I've eaten cheese that day the nightmares still happen.

  I have read that dreaming can be likened to the filing cabinets in your brain being open and shut with the contents flung around. I think this is very apt as our brain is trying to make sense of the contents of our memory banks.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-19-09 WT Study (YOUTHS)

  by blondie in

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  "ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, that your advancement may be manifest to all persons.--1 tim.

  young person.

  young christian (of course, only jws).

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  Twenty-one years ago they were being told that they should pass up college and career because the end was coming.

  How true is that! I remember being so ashamed at wanting to pursue my education.

  An elder in my congregation shunned his daughter for going to university and she still sat in the KH even though her own father ignored her. I was a young teenager at the time and this girl really inspired me - she was gutsy and brave to still stick it out at the KH despite the opposition. It was one of the turning points in my own life and allowed me to make the break from the JWS. I often wonder what happened to her - she was far too smart and knew her own mind. I hope she got out too!

  There was also a lot of double standards - brothers could pursue their wordly careers, we had a few examples of successful businessmen, whereas the females were condemned to a life of full time magazine pushing. This was not the future I saw for myself so I decided to take my chances at the big A!
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  Hi I hope i am welcome

  by cantleave in

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  hi guys and gals,.

  i am a hypocryte.

  brought up in the "truth" but know its not.

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  Freedom Fighter

  Welcome to the forum Cantleave.

  As always, high levels of fear are the crude tactic employed by the borg to keep people trapped. It is emotional blackmail at it's worst and at odds with the 'loving' philosophy continually promoted as the organisational hallmark.

  Re: Reniaa's comment regarding her sister:

  Again, yet another weak argument that somehow being a JW protects someone from going off the rails. This board is testament to the fact that many, many people have left the JWs and gone on to live happy lives and make a positive contribution to society. This does not take into account those who have left the borg and have never visited this board. JWs do not have the monopoloy on morality - this is a cliche I have heard many times. It is yet another example of so called JW superiority which neatly deflects from the true rot at it's core.

  FF
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  My Chat with My Older JW Mom about Missing Meetings due to Health

  by flipper in

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  it never ceases to amaze me how the mind control of jehovah's witnesses makes their older people feel so guilty about missing meetings.

  i mean - they have experiences all the time at assemblies about sister " white hair " barely able to stand on her feet , yet she goes pounding on doors in neighborhoods in inclement weather , perhaps on crutches handing out watchtowers to people.

  you hear of how " admirable " it is for a senior citizen impaired in a wheelchair , perhaps on breathing devices - jeopardizing catching a cold by attending metings perhaps among kids with snot running out their nose and coughing in older ones faces.

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  Hi folks

  Thanks for the comments - it's good to be able to vent now and again to people who know what I'm talking about. The irony is that one of the best and most supportive friends of my mum has been her 'worldly' neighbour for whom nothing is too much trouble.

  My dad (who has never been a witness) says that he is glad the JWs have disappeared, as like myself, he cannot stomach listening to their fanciful paradise daydreams on a regular basis. I think he would move into the shed if the JWs came calling on a regular basis and doesn't want to encourage this. When he drove them to the meetings he had to suffer a non stop recruitment drive!

  Thankfully we have been able to replace the JWs with a re-introduction to old 'worldly' friends and family - this has shown how real love and kindness operates. In fact it has been great in some ways to get the JWs off the scene. My mum doesn't say much about it but I know she is hurt, but as is common, refuses to apportion blame.

  Slim: my mum's friends are slightly younger than her but are all lively and active people who really have no excuse. If they themselves were unable to get about I would fully understand, but this lot seem to have made a choice.

  Thanks again for listening folks - means a lot.
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  My Chat with My Older JW Mom about Missing Meetings due to Health

  by flipper in

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  it never ceases to amaze me how the mind control of jehovah's witnesses makes their older people feel so guilty about missing meetings.

  i mean - they have experiences all the time at assemblies about sister " white hair " barely able to stand on her feet , yet she goes pounding on doors in neighborhoods in inclement weather , perhaps on crutches handing out watchtowers to people.

  you hear of how " admirable " it is for a senior citizen impaired in a wheelchair , perhaps on breathing devices - jeopardizing catching a cold by attending metings perhaps among kids with snot running out their nose and coughing in older ones faces.

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  Freedom Fighter

  This is a topic which really makes my blood boil. My elderly mother, who is in poor health, hasn't attended a meeting for about 18 months to 2 years now. During her almost 30 year service she has done more than her fair share of magazine selling and meeting attendance, often using our car to ferry people around to meetings, assemblies etc. The majority of these people always seemed to think that we had invented a new bio fuel that was free to use - how else would you explain the lack of offers to help with the petrol costs?

  In these 2 years of non attendance she has become practically invisible, yesterday's news. The phone calls have stopped and she has a 5 minute visit approximately every six months from some patronising git who brings a Victoria sponge and probably counts time. This is a poor exchange for the time, effort and money given to the WTS. She has been abandoned by her so called friends as she is now too much of a burden to have around.

  Does this make me angry? Damn right it does, especially as she makes excuses for them and their lack of interest. I saw this happen to older ones in the congo when I was growing up - no-one wanted to know when they subsequently became a burden.

  The hypocrisy is clear to see and makes a mockery of the holier than thou attitude which is often worn like a badge of honour.

  FF
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  I WONDER WHAT JW THEORY ON ORIGIN OFPYGMIES IS?

  by badboy in

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  any ideas?.

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  Freedom Fighter

  Who cares? OMG this gets worse....
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  Rangers v Zenit St P - any predictions

  by besty in

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  i'll start - sir walter 2 wee dutch dickski 1. all goals scored from open play in normal time.. any advance?.

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  Freedom Fighter

  I am emerging from hibernation to say 'Mon the Gers!'
  
  Hoping to get to Ibrox tomorrow night to see it on the big screen. Win or lose the boys have done really well to get to this stage especially when everyone was writing them off before every game.Considering the shambles that Wattie inherited this is beyond our wildest dreams!
  
  " There's only one Nacho Novo..."
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  England goes SMOKE FREE tomorrow!

  by nicolaou in

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  yes!!

  about bloody time.. .

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  Freedom Fighter

  Interesting point from Trev:
  
  
  " I heard a radio report last week where it said that, since the
  
  ban came into effect in Scotland, more than 800 pubs have
  
  closed, with a subsequent loss of over 3,500 jobs. No doubt
  
  some of those people would have supported the ban, but I
  
  wonder how they feel about it now? Would they rather work
  
  in an environment where smoking is allowed, or be out of
  
  work? I know which I'd prefer. "
  
  
  It's actually not as simple as that - there are many different factors affecting the pub trade. One of these is the big brewers monopoly which is forcing a lot of independent pubs to close. They can't compete with the prices and facilities provided by a Wotherspoons - just one example.
  
  
  Also - there is the 'supermarket' factor. There has been a trend towards selling alcohol at really cheap prices - e.g. Asda, so more people drink in the house to save money. As an example - some people may prefer to go to a club having had a few drinks rather than forking out for the over priced and sometimes watered down stuff available at the bar. In some cases the smoking ban has brought in more people, as it would appear there is a grudging acceptance that this is how it's going to be from now on.
  
  
  Sure the smoking ban will have had some impact, but as Ian said the benefits will far outweigh any disadvantages.